theology

April 01, 2009

holy week worship video : worship tricks

next week we are doing our midday holy week services in our youth space (cause its' the coolest) and most artistically driven area and the pastors want to do some more experiential worship stuff. we'll do some prayer stations stuff for sure & some various smells. but what about our visuals?

i've pretty much sold myself on parsing this video stopping it through good friday & then showing the full thing on easter. i love simple & creative stuff. this is right up my alley

March 12, 2009

more explaination of technology & virtual community : shane hipps day

zach lind did this little video interview for his podcast expanding a little more on what shane was getting at with technology & the virtual community.


Shane Hipps and Zach Lind Discuss Virtual Community. from Zach Lind on Vimeo.

virtual community is not possible : shane hipps day

this is the video by shane hipps in a little snippet interview by the out or ur folks at the national pastors convention. scot mcknight took some of this to task as well & kept going with it as shane chipped back in. tony jones also threw in his thoughts on virtual community into the conversation.

know how your technology is shaping you : shane hipps day

this is a good little video interview between rob bell & shane hipps (tip terrace) where shane flips on you what might be your preconceived notions on how technology is shaping you & culture.

Rob Bell Interviews Shane Hipps About Technology.

March 10, 2009

brick testament : an idea for visual

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i make assumptions that everyone sees and thinks the same things that i do. with that, i assume everyone has seen 'the brick testament'... just imagine, lego meets biblical narrative, with some excellent photography to boot.

anyways, for our coffeehouse youth gathering yesterday our teacher asked for some images to go with the scriptures of Jesus cursing the fig tree and turning over the temple. i decided to use the brick testament and the young ones really enjoyed it. but mostly i did which is all that matters haha!

so in case you didn't know, you too can use the brick testament for some scriptural images in teaching.

March 09, 2009

spirituality & social media : my podcamp nashville video

john w ellis, who has become one of our buddies in the nashville tech circle video taped my talk from podcamp nashville on saturday.



PodCamp Nashville: Spirituality & Social Media by Gavin Richardson from John Ellis on Vimeo

some links to referenced sites


March 07, 2009

spirituality & social media : the internet is our parish : podcamp nashville

here are the slides of my presentation earlier this morning at podcamp nashville. there were a couple of video recordings of the session, so i will link and post to those when they become available.

spirituality & social media : the internet is our parish
by gavin richardson
website : www.gavoweb.com
email : gavoweb@gmail.com
twitter : gavoweb

slide 1-2 : intro of self. this presentation is a quick exploration of how people have been living out and shaping their spiritual lives through the various social media tools. this is important to explore so that we can see how we are being shaped by these culture tools & come to understand how to use them to reflect who we are, not to be consumed by them. the flow of the presentation is, looking at how this is an excellent partnership, sharing some stories of faith in the social media spectrum, where faith goes wrong, suggestions that are just my humble opinion, and a little joke

slide 3 : the printing press as far as faith goes, has & continues to have the most profound impact on people living out their faith. up until that point scripture readings and community theological conversation happened at the temple, the well, the home. you had to go where people were gathered only in the creation of the printing press did scripture become accessible to the common person. you also see a further excentuating of a linear teaching but in the core, ministry is relational & creation of social media relationship is sought out by participants.. the church needs to break away from its hang ups on what ‘its always done’ because it hasn’t always done this. its actually a quite modern experience’

slide 4 : real live preacher was one of the first bloggers to take on a large following. 1. early adopter to the medium 2. there is something brilliant & counter to what people have experienced with pastors and he is expressing.. authenticity, availability, and pastor before you might have only had the stoic pastor who’s secrets, failures, struggles as a practicer of faith were kept out of sight and not talked about because that would ruin the integrity of the pastor. pastors were perfect, on a pedestal to be marveled at, but here, is another way

slide 5 : the emerging church movement was a grassroots shift in the evangelical church that brought a postive (as i see it) conversation to the church. blogging was their primary platform for the exchange of ideas and cultivating conversations and relationships. because we are faddish emergent can be taboo, emerging means something different, and ‘missional’ seems to be the new adjunct buzz word from the whole 6-7 year era. the wikipedia page was great, at one time it had in its links some 200 blog listings as ‘authoritative emergent blogs’

slide 6-9 : as with any faith the prophets are those people who are so extremely close to God that they can't help but to share what messages they are receiving. unlike our own time of logical reasoning prophets usually speak in poetry, lyric, dreams, etc. with the new mediums we might have to expand how some of or prophetic messages, which are generally hard messages to take, come to us..

slide 10-12 : i am a sucker for religious satire. the brilliance of satire is that, just like people people who watch the fake news, you actually have to know what the news is about. tweetjeebus, who went silent right before christmas day was one of my favorites. if anyone knows the some quick history of the great schism one of the big lines in the sand was an 'and' in the nicene creed one of my favorite twitter days was after charlton heston died. there was just some great images of the nra advocate who had been so revered in playing moses joining in with the communion of saints

slide 13-14 : my favorite of podcasters is father roderick. he started his podcasting career out when pope john paul 2 became ill as a news show for catholics wanting to know.. what came out of that was the catholic insider a podcast that was part news, q & a, and tour of the world. he's since parred his podcasting down to the daily breakfast which is a less technical podcast, but still incredibly interactive and covers a gammit o of subjects. just last week he had a long discussion on battle star galactica what is unique to this religious podcast is that people interact with him. this isn't his sermon series. he's accessible and average in his speak.

slide 15-16 : going off the normal social media map i want to mention a little bit on virtual communities in virtual worlds. this is me.. i live out my monastic tendencies in second life. i a homeless guy floating around from church area to area, but i have a base church that is united church of christ i have worshiped in. and with that i've made a lot of connections with the lgbt community. what is remarkable, as in this ash wednesday service at the lgbt church in second life, these are real people who are hurt enough by the stigmas that these virtual environments are a 'safe' place to live out their faith.

slide 17 : not everything is always a positive in the world of faith. the blasphemy challenge was a big thing a few years back where a 'rational response squad' asked people to do the unforgivable sin by blaspheming the holy spirit and god.. reading off a general script. this took up some decent number of responses as well as send a bunch of religious folks into a tizzy

slide 18-19 : so where does faith go wrong with some of this stuff? i'd say that one of the things that the religious institutions have trouble with is control. control of content, what is being said, the unfiltered-ness of discussion and that everyone has the ability for the same footing as every pastor, bishop, cardinal, cleric, rabbi, etc. i feel that churches too quickly jump onto the social media train. we need a facebook account, we need to twitter, we need this.. but they never ask why and they never listen to what is already being said by people out there. it is also to note that when the people of faith and the institutions get too involved with these or any tools it can get to an extreme where it turns on you i love south park, they do some of the best social commentary i my opinion. this episode where they lost the internet and the whole culture went bizerk. this is a moment where stan's sister meets her online boyfriend face to face & they don't know how to talk. but when the internet comes back they can get back together again. the church doesn't need to get so enamored with tech that forgets how to actually talk to people and relate.

slide 20 : so in my humble opinion. the "people" of faiths should seek out to listen first.. if that includes joining, so be it, but listen first to what people are saying and doing. make friends, however that looks, and cultivate relationships without agenda. maybe the sole agenda is to love another, and by love we seek the best for that person. i think the institutions should get away from social media as an institution.. i care not to hear about your pot luck dinner so-and-so church. but i might like to hear some of the personal struggles or triumphs of your leaders. give me somebody, not some entity.

slide 21-22 : one of my fav new sites that a fellow youth leader tipped me off too is a site created by the children of the jewish faith asking their jewish parents and friends to tell their best joke. this is great, the judaic faith is known for its storytelling so all their folks are great storytellers in their own ways. so i close with, an old jew who tells jokes.

slide 23: thanks!

March 06, 2009

podcamp nashville : the internet is our parish

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hey nashville friends, podcamp is just around the corner (ie. saturday). i'm doing my first ever speaking gig at this podcamp. erin & i have been faithful attenders and participants of the barcamps & geekbreakfasts here in nashville. love the tech community here.

my session is on spirituality in the social media spectrum. what will bascially be bringing up is some significant pieces of how faith is acted out with some reflections as to why i feel they are remarkable.

i'll be putting in some church suggestions in there as well, but that stuff isn't as much fun as telling stories.

i showed erin my presentation and walked her through my unwritten script. she really liked it. since she's my barometer i'm feeling pretty good.

not in nashville & want to get plugged in? if i can get some reasonable way to put together a ustream, you can find me at my ustream channel (which i rarely use). you can follow along all the podcamp nashville fun on twitter by following #pcn09.

January 27, 2009

superglue : its what holds a marriage together

i suppose i shouldn't be surprised. after all my ranting before about friendship first and the sex week challenge.

but again, i was really turned off by ed young's simplistic, and in my opinion, misdirected bond to marriage. now i get being on a talk show you get 5 minutes & colbert or stewart are the funny guys and you are to be the straight guy. within that 5 minutes they do allow you to get your point out there, but only briefly and it is your one liner. so to hear, "sex is the superglue to marriage." honestly, is that the best you have? even nt wright was better at explaining "life after life after death" in the resurrection than you were about a solid why for having sex 7 days in a row to save marriage.

 

January 24, 2009

war & christianity : the many voices

i found this little video looking for a psalters song. it has some interesting thoughts on war from people whom i listen too, contemporary and old school.


January 11, 2009

congress on evangelism : tyrone gordon on Acts 4

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one of those new voices to my life came in quickly at the congress on evangelism last week. rev. tyrone gordon of saint luke's community united methodist church gave the opening worship sermon. some little quot-ables that i jotted down. he was preaching a sermon called "who said you could do that?" based on acts 4.

  • most of our christianity is nothing but talk
  • as long as we preach a comfy Jesus we will get along just fine
  • it got them IN trouble, before it got them out of trouble
  • (holding up the bible) this tells me i don't need permission, i already have the authority

January 02, 2009

religulous : bill mahar on radical faith & people who don't think


i've spent bits and pieces of my morning watching religulous, the documentary by bill mahar on faith & reason. my quick thoughts

  • he takes on more than just the christian faith, which i know is in the target hairs of skeptics/critics etc. since he goes to all faith expressions i'll say, he's balanced in his critique.
  • i agree with him on a few of the 'questions & doubt' he brings up. case, he was standing in front of the vatican and said 'where does Jesus talk about this?' (or a similar caveat). which i agree, our systems and buildings, which are or can be testaments to God inspiration within persons, can also wreak of our own needs. but with this case example, people are moved spiritually by such structures & people are have probably been sacrificed (financially & socially) in making such structures exist. we live in both worlds as a faith, we cannot seperate the them.
  • i have a hard time calling it documentary, more like docudrama, in that the film is littered with snippets of video from various culture angles (from gay porn, war footage, to children's bible cartoons) that give little to the overall conversation than to elicit an edgy response. there is also times, especially in the conversations with various leaders of islam where they subtitle what is being said. now, it could be what is actually said (i do not speak arabic) but in a case where a cleric takes what looks like a phone call/txt message, they put in subtitle what he txt message. those instances just fuel stereotypes which is not helpful for his overall message.
  • his overall message is that religion needs to go away (and for those religious/christ follower folks, you might think the same), but his crass nature in sharing his message will probably only put off people to what is probably a greater message, that we need to question & answer our faith. that type of questioning is not a bad thing to be avoided, but should be embraced as part of our spiritual pilgrimage.

i might suggest a more graceful response in putting out a similar message to the christian church is to check out 'Lord save me from your followers' by dan merchant

stirring the pot : back to sex week challenge

my article for the united methodist reporter got picked up by the dallas morning news religion blog. as i'd expect there are folks who disagree with me. that's perfectly okay. not a problem with that. i disagreed with pastor ed, so its only fair conversation.

December 26, 2008

basin & towel : more monday music

i have been wandering through the michael card collections since monday's music post. this one called basin & towel i remember from some worship services we did at mountain top some time back. modern telling of a parable?


December 25, 2008

unto us a child is born : its all the talk

merry christmas all! i hope this day brings great joy to you.

in participating in service last night i was pondering the birth of Christ through the book of Saint Luke.

i got this imagery of joseph & the shepherd guys telling stories and jabbering on about this birth of a boy. the image was this photo of my brother when our newest richardson, baby madalyn, was born.

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shawn & i at one time (many years ago) were both emt's and had been trained in emergency deliveries. madalyn's wasn't an emergency, but the doctors asked shawn if he wanted to catch her. shawn quickly jumped in on that and he was happy to tell us about how it all went down.

i can imagine joseph and the shepherd guys jabbering on about how cool this was.

"yeah, so you wouldn't imagine it.. i had these dreams.. we made this huge trek.. then mary.. i had to figure something out so i improvised, pulling a mcguyver to find a cradle and some shelter.. figured who would bother us out here. all the good places were taken."

December 22, 2008

monday music : Jesus is our jubilee

not being a nashville native i have adopted some of the norms of the nashville culture. one of the norms of being in nashville is that you don't "out" the celebrities. they are regular people and you let them be regular. since nashville is a country music home this is rather easy for me. being from the philadelphia area there was maybe one country station and going to alabama i tried to give country a go, but it didn't take. some of the icons i can point out, the dolly or... well, the dolly.

this not 'outting' the celeb became a big thing when i was working for awhile at rei in brentwood (a camping co-op store for those that don't know & a tn town where a lot of celebs reside). people would come in and i'd ask them if they were a member (a common question when you visit a co-op) and i'd get their name, jackson, brooks, etc. i knew of people, so i would realize that they were somebody.

i lost my cool though, once.

i had this very ordinary guy stop in buying some stuff. i rang him up, his co-op membership was under his wife's name, not a problem. he gave me his credit card and i looked at it for signature and matching name. when i saw his name it said 'michael card'.. my eyes widened and i looked up at him and sneaked the question "are you, the michael card, the musician?" he answered back "yes" and didn't look to pleased about it. so i needed a recovery.. i responded back with what was amazing brilliance "i know one of your old piano teachers." note: this was not a lie, rolland puckett who went to church with me. rolland is an older gentleman who was a concert pianist and would play his steinway in the church sanctuary at night. i'd sneak in and listen to him, it was a real joy and we had a good friendship. anyway, back to michael. he replied back "really?" i said, "yes, rolland puckett is a very good friend." michael's shoulder's let down, we talked about rolland a bit and the gear that he was purchasing for a 2 week romanian mission he was undertaking at that time. i was on cloud nine. went home and told my brother who i ran into and he was stoked too. i told other folks about my run in with michael card, but they were like "who?" yes, he's more the artist for the church geek.

michael was never the most well known artist. he didn't fit the trendy mold of contemporary christian music. his stuff was challenging too. none of his stuff is fluffy & couldn't really get adapted to the growing worship music scene. he talked with a lot of the words and metaphors you see in the emergent community now, only this was steeped in more liturgy and lived out in the early & mid '90's, long before that stuff start.

so, in this time of advent i share with you michael card's song jubilee. i would also suggest his song with phil keaggy 'poem of your life'

things on tab : stories sex religion church teens and technology

as part of my new integration of lifestream stuff into my blogs newer look. i've been plugging a lot of stuff into my gavin del.icio.us account. so you can track back to these and other links of interest long after this posting (and others) have cycled out of view. i'm working on figuring out how i like stumbleupon or digg.

December 19, 2008

sex week challenge revist : commentary for umportal

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a few weeks back i made a simple commentary about ed young's sex week challenge to his congregation. amy forbus asked if i would expand on my feelings for a commentary for the umportal. i'm never short on something to say so i gave it a go. it will go into print for the reporter next month, but is online now as 'sex challenge misses the mark.'

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Having followed Mr. Young closely and watched his sermons online, I know he has some good reasons why sex is an important part of a marriage relationship. But his pandering with the news media outlets and their need for one-line quotations only simplified an otherwise complicated issue.

Let me suggest we should not be talking about sex as a “foundation” for our marriages. Before we should be having sex, we should figure out how we are friends with our spouses and others. If we are to “reclaim sex” as God’s great gift from the seduction of culture we have to start at the deep core, not the symptom. The deep core we need to address is how we are friends in love, not lovers in bed.

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go read more of why sex challenge misses the mark

October 15, 2008

red & blue : may we find the land of hesed

this is may be the most brilliant thing jay has done this year. &:~)

October 14, 2008

billy graham : technology and suffering

i really do love that ted is putting their talks online. this one from 1998 billy graham speaking on technology and suffering, the evils of the world and how Christ is the only answer. he also throws in some fun old testament bible study. very billy.

September 18, 2008

the ordinary radicals : proud owner

i ordered my own copy of 'the ordinary radicals' today. for some reason i noticed today, and not others, that the nashville showing is just for belmont univ students. lllaamme! so i bought my own copy. it's only 20 bucks and i suppose it could be a quick back up for youth if needed.


The Ordinary Radicals - Trailer from Jamie Moffett on Vimeo.

September 14, 2008

heard it all : saint augustine confession

i can imagine a lot of things. but a rap on saint augustine's confessions. thanks to john & ironic catholic

August 28, 2008

jesus christ : kung fu grip

so i leave this to your interpretation. but if you want a more expanded, and probably excessive, action figure jesus exegesis then hear what dixon has to say (i especially like the jesus has nipples vid).

August 24, 2008

God really wants me to have lots of money : apparently tells me so

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not sure what to make of this.. i've never been a fan of the prosperity gospel. i don't mind having money to pay my bills & plan for the futures of our future children, but when someone talks money.. and making so much money beyond that, i don't know what to do. these thoughts take prosperity to a whole new sense of 'out there' for me.

Like Woody and Pilzer, Brother Ty knows God wants you to be rich. But he also knows God's got some big-time "enemies" out to sabotage you. And like in "The Omen" and "The Exorcist," they come in disguise, for example, politicians, bankers, brokers and CEOs. But you already know there are so many of these little "devils" in the "unholy trinity" that can't be trusted: Wall Street, Washington and Corporate America.

i'll be sure to watch out for them & continue to stick to my five rules

  1. First rule: Trust God ... but not his 'enemies'
  2. Second rule: Wall Street won't make you rich, it's stealing from you
  3. Third rule: Stop working for Corporate America if you want to get rich
  4. Fourth rule: You can't trust Washington to help you get rich
  5. Fifth rule: 'Faith-based getting rich' means trusting in 'You Inc.'

July 31, 2008

justification : love

There is no justification for love, for if there were, then it would not be love. If we love because we are compelled through force, then it is not love. If I give some money to the poor only because someone is holding a gun to my head and demanding the action, then this is not a loving action. Neither is it loving if I act in order to gain a reward, even if the reward is simply the feeling that comes from doing the act. As soon as we say that we should love, then love disappears, for love is the law that has no law, the way that knows no 'should'. Love is the law that tells us when to subvert the law, when to obey the law and when to break with laws, yet love is a lawless law that cannot be argued for.

how (not) to speak of God, -peter rollins

July 06, 2008

more brain trust : revisiting the festival of homiletics

last spring jay & and a crew of us teamed up to lead worship with brian mclaren at the festival of homiletics in an 'emergent' service. coming up with 'emergent' at 8:30 am  with 1400 people was interesting to imagine. the tenets we thought up were images, participatory, and community.. the community part was manifested in our singing as our music had three musicians (jay being one of them) and each led a song. none of the songs were mainstream, but jays was one of his home brews and he's now sharing that sound and music for the song.

June 27, 2008

hauerwas street cred : stan can't be that mean

i find this highly amusing from shaun groves in speaking to stan hauerwas's staunch pacifism. tony, you might like this too.

Stanley Hauerwas has said, “I’m a pacifist because I’m a violent son of a bitch.” And I don’t believe him.  Because he’s miniature.  He’s a diminutive (brilliant) theologian no more than five feet tall and speaking with a voice that reminds me of an LP played at a 45’s speed.  I’m not buying that he’s violent.  Not physically.  And that lets some of the credibility out of his entire pacifist position.

more on the links : and it's not golf

time just seems to be going everywhere but into blog posting. no biggie, just means i'm working with the youth who i am sorta paid to minister with. so for the time you can see some of the fruits of work & readings. this is my latest collection of stuff.

June 20, 2008

bishop nt wright : colbert report

last night many of you probably caught nt wright on the colbert report. for those that didn't, here's the fun. if you were not sure what exactly was said, go check in with jake, he transcribed the conversation.

June 13, 2008

non-religious but spiritual : learning to talk again

today we had a great day of conversation. i hooked up with friend jim palmer for a day of conversation 'connecting with non-religious yet spiritual people' and some 25 folks. i tried to broadcast it over ustream, which, it might have actually done. i think though our church wireless wasn't quite up to task for it though. i did record most of it on simple video, so maybe i can put some out there in future days. jim has given a little synopsis of the conversation.

i really enjoyed our time together today! let me try and summarize some things that came up, and then ask for your feedback on a few items.

in summary....

1. all people have "spiritual" interests and desires (i.e. desire for peace,love, freedom, and contentment). unless you live on an island, every person has had exposure to religion. some people have spent more time and energy seeking God and spiritual things through religion than others but all people are influenced by the presence of religion in society and culture.

2. "religion" is defined as a fixed or defined system of beliefs, practices, and structures meant to aid people in knowing God.

3. a "non-religious" person is someone for whom that organized system of beliefs, practices, and structures is not beneficial for their "spiritual growth and desire to know God. in cases where those religious beliefs, practices, and structures are oppressive, legalistic, judgmental, shallow, hypocritical, and demeaning, people are deeply wounded and damaged from their previous religious involvements, and are therefore often resentful of those individuals and churches involved.

4. a highly organized form of church is only one form of church. this form of church works for some people but not all people. an increasing number of people no longer subscribe to the idea that "church" must involve a building, organized programs, and weekly worship services.

5. the panel today is representative of many non-religious people:

Mike - Buddhist AND Christian
Jeffrey - Don't label me anything, get to know me.
Carlene - Don't put yourself or others in a box.
Doug - Love is my religion.

6. unconditional love and acceptance, and cultivating true relationships/friendships is what's most "relevant" to non-religious people. these cannot be accomplished or achieved within the typical systems, structures, and programs of organized church life. in other words, the true essence of "church" is not even possible AT church (services, classes, groups, meetings, programs, etc.).

7. religion often labels/stereotypes people, too quickly judges and condemns others who are different, and insists there must be "winners" and "losers." religious energies are often focused on converting people to different beliefs. what gets lost in all of this is truly understanding people as they are or where they are, and how they got there.

8. some people seek to "reform" organized forms of church to make the message of Christ more accessible to non-religious people. others choose to operate outside organized forms of church.

i want to encourage you to read the books: Authentic Relationships, and Divine Nobodies. Consider this Yahoo Group an open forum for the following:

- continuing the conversation of "connecting with the spiritual interests of non-religious people" - offering your feedback and input about today's gathering - sharing how things are evolving in your own personal life and/or in your faith community as it relates to this topic - sharing your input and feedback about the books - passing along other helpful resources

another gathering is scheduled for the fall. if you are interested in helping in any way, let me know. i am also working on a similar event in which the panel will include clerics from Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and an Atheist. let me know if you have any interest in helping with that.

you can also always email me at jim(at)divinenobodies.com

thanks! jim

May 29, 2008

tuesday randomness : on thursday

so i've been a little busy these last two days with a short week i suppose. we are also in the midst of holding some town hall type meet ups with our youth and youth leaders to share and discuss restructure for our upcoming year in youth ministry... so blogging has come second.. well last really.

getting back on track, here are some significant links for the week.

May 13, 2008

tuesday randomness : link love

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where do we get this time to work on the internet?

May 08, 2008

phyllis tickle : the new rose

rachel got me thinking of this video of phyllis tickle sharing insight into the new rose or the great emergence.

April 30, 2008

what bugs me about this? : general conference blog reflection & challenge

Youthblog2 so i've been doing a lot of general conference blog reading. mostly cause i have to keep up with the methoblog while jay is out of town. one blog added to the mix was/is the ird's blog for conference. they've got some folks who are teaming up to post, so ideas and topics cover a wide range. this is the most recent posting and it doesn't ring right with me.

On the Sunday before General Conference, my pastor mentioned the Conference in the morning announcements. He added his hope that the “special interests” that have besieged past General Conferences would be set aside along with divisive issues like abortion, human sexuality, the environment, and immigration. Indeed the Rev. Tom Berlin, the lead clergy delegate for Virginia, mentioned the same hope in a commentary for UM News Service. “The curtain may be rising on a new act in our story as a Christian movement—unless forces of the past conspire to jam it shut.”

Sadly, the hope expressed by my pastor and Rev. Berlin have not been exhibited at this General Conference. There is little agreement on social issues like human sexuality, abortion or the war in Iraq. Each day there are anti-war protests, pro-homosexuality demonstrations, immigration reform rallies, one anti-Bush Library protester, and over a dozen daily leaflets available from various caucus groups. 

There is little theological agreement either. On a quick walk through the official UMC bookstore, Cokesbury, one can find monographs by radical Episcopal bishop John Shelby Spong, Jesus Seminar author Marcus Borg, and “dissenting” United Methodist Bishop Joseph Sprague. One can also find a few evangelical authors like orthodox Oxford don Alistair McGrath, Jesus Seminar critic and New Testament scholar N.T. Wright, and Mere Christianity’s C.S. Lewis. And there are those from the so-called “extreme center” like UM Bishop Scott Jones (who, by the way, has a curious habit of avoiding taking all leaflets offered to GC delegates and visitors each morning—as a former professor, perhaps he’s already read enough).

my thought.. "hi pot, meet kettle" is it odd that someone as a voice for the ird is calling others divisive? i'm on the mailing list, i read your newsletters and emails. their stuff is divisive. sure it covers itself in saving the conservative values of the church.. whatever that means.. does that make you more righteous? thus right? if you actually think that then you are much too proud to see your lack of humility.

also, how do so many people come  together and not have disagreement? that is unrealistic to expect that. i read borg and nt wright.. so am i in your good graces one day and not the other?

the ird folks do have a collection of some of the slamming cartoons that people have done of them. that's a pretty funny post.

other than that, i encourage all at gc get a pic of the bush library protester. we will make a full photo post of submitted pics with the lone protester at the methoblog. why? because i think that would be funny.

April 24, 2008

nt wright & bart ehrman theo-celebrity death match

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shamefully, i had more fun and spent more time making this graphic than any time i'm giving to the content of the post, but oh well.

jake highlighted that bart ehrman and nt wright are in 'theo-celebrity death match' ... or "debate" over at blogalogue on beliefnet.

topic of conversation? "is our pain God's problem?"

April 23, 2008

an evening with bishop nt wright : round up & audio

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last night erin & i headed down to west end, along with quite a few hundred cross cultural types to hear from n.t. wright, the bishop of durham. he's on a book tour for "surprised by hope" which i am to read sometime this year. i was stoked to hear of his coming and by the turnout last night, quite a few others were as well. it was a nice evening out catching up with many friends. even erin had fun meeting up with the various friendships through blogging. being at the methodist church it was nice to see some metho-types in the audience as well. after-wards we went out for drinks at the broadway brewhouse, with the joneses for a new draft beer to town. the new beer, boulevard brew, out of kansas city. it is quite good, though it probably won't take over from my early 20's drink of choice back in nj.

back to last night. i am still processing. i don't know if i have knowledge and language command to navigate what i heard in teaching and not making it sound like some purgatory realm. one thing erin & i liked was nt's distinction that we are not building the kingdom but building for the kingdom. his analogy was a rock sculpture shape a rock, and that is what they do, but it is the architect who puts into its place where the true beauty shows.

many friends have already started to throw down their thoughts. so i give you a round-up of those conversations

another fun thing. i received an email from a older gentleman asking my response to his comments on the tennessean article i was quoted in. for the record, my church is "first" united methodist, not "faith" united methodist. common mistake.. not really, but oh well.

some of my conversations in the being interviewed were that. 1. this isn't such a hard concept to grasp as we have always had a teaching of holiness movement and means of grace that is intended to be kingdom building 2. it isn't so hard to imagine methodist's interested in anglican folks as we are only 300 years removed from those anglican traditions of church. not to mention, we are a revival movement from that church body, so any revival in that church is probably something we are going to be interested in. but as with any of my "news" spots, my one liners are lame or total bs.

i do take down some audio of the bishop's talk. the sound system was not in fine form. john, who was operating the system and a old family friend told me after-wards someone came in and messed it all up after he had it perfect. he was so mad. so the audio isn't the best volume quality, but if you can plug into some speakers you can hear just fine.

April 22, 2008

nt wright tonight and friends afterwards

Ntwright tonight erin & i are heading over to west end to hear from nt wright. afterwards we are going to hang with thunder & emily jones. if anyone wants to join or friendly conversations afterwards make plans and look for us & join in. i got a really short hair cut last week, so look for the guy with short curly hair. not the usually long nappy look.

April 21, 2008

general conference : open letter

ken carter has a very well said open letter to general conference. there is much about it am behind as we try and engage in holy conferencing.

In Fort Worth we will accomplish important business. We will affirm our core mission-to make disciples, for the transformation of the world. And yet one of the most profound ways we will do this is by the way we live with one another, and by the way we love one another.

i turned the letter into a pdf to download if you like conference2008openletter.pdf.

in more highthearted general conference news, stephen taylor has prognostications.

April 13, 2008

the richard dawkins rap : dicky d has a science degree

couldn't help but share this one. tip to resonate media radar

April 11, 2008

shift conference : kara powell & dan kimball

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these are my notes. make a comment if you have a question. pictures from this pilgrim

kara powell : deep ministry

  • we have so many resources and are so professional that we have lost our entrepreneurial spirit
  • this kids i walked through life with i watched graduate on june 16th "i didn't even think of what was happening on july 16th."
  • 80% of kids that graduate and drift away had no intention of drifting away.
  • the real test of youth ministry is where are they 5 or 10 years, or even 12 months after they graduate
  • shared a video from liveabove.com (kinda dramatic
  • what is it about the youth ministries that prepare students for things to come
  • dallas Willard, but now let us try a subversive thought. suppose our failures occur, not in spite of what we are ...
  • deep ministry means we ask then act...
  • "the red bull rip off.." people love it because it gets them through that meeting then they have a post meeting collapse. our youth have a post youth group collapse, partly because they are so lonely.
  • the youth group kid who didn't drink has the greatest increase of alcohol use when they get to college
  • we can't continue to give mindless gospel, empty calories
  • dallas willard, "the gospel of sin management"
  • shouting about guilt wouldn't work, so we whispered about grace.. we were going to heaven but we were not taking anyone with us.
  • our lives should be one of gratitude, our lives are great big thank you card to God
  • good, guilt, grace, gratitude. ask then act.. what gospel am i feeding kids?
  • when you think of God looking at you, what is the expression on God's face?
  • ask then act.. are students welcome at our table??
  • the kids' table catastrophe. there is the same meal, but two very different versions.
  • one eared mickey mouse. the kids who do more with intergenerational and interracial worship do better when they graduate.
  • how can our kids take their place at God's divers kingdom table?
  • a new ratio of 5 adults per 1 youth
  • at our churches today we have done a good job of doing something we learned from culture, we outsource
  • how can we train students to feed themselves?
  • recovery, find a church/group, time & $, help come up with a plan for the first two weeks
  • they need help knowing how to recover when they fall.
  • if Jesus isn't able to forgive a little partying then i need a new religion

dan kimball : they like Jesus but don't like the church

  • scan the landscape, what do people think of Jesus?
  • the good news: there is a growing interest in Jesus in our emerging culture
  • prayer: "lord would you be offended by a bobble head Jesus?"
  • madonna "it is my plea that the audience to encourage mankind to help one another" "if Jesus were here today he would be doing the same thing."
  • people equate Jesus more like MLK and Gandhi, they don't equate the resurrection. but the good news is that they already have an interest in him. Jesus is something people enjoy talking about
  • the bad news: there is a growing disinterest in "Christianity" and "church"
  • dan throws out a list of views of Christians.. some are spot on for what i am seeing and hearing here
  • Gandhi "i like your Christ, i do not like your Christians"
  • "pastors are creepy"
  • as we move into what i more of a post-Christian culture..
  • "my prayer is not that you take them out the world, but that you protect them from the evil one." -john17:15
  • the youth that i had that i can think of that are still in the faith were a part of the world, not in isolation
  • instead of being out in the world we conform this Christian subculture bubble
  • ..so all that people experience are usually the most aggressive and loudest Christian voices
  • dan tells some great stories of hanging with non-Christians
  • we as leaders will create these cultures to be the church, but be the church in the world
  • my subtle fear is that we swing the kingdom of heaven so far that we forget that there is a life after death
  • the good news: most churches and Christians are not what the perceptions are.
  • for our youth are we shaping an inward culture? or a missional culture?
  • maybe in the future when asked people of what they think of Christians they will say things like kind, loving and gentle

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